Featured Bayonet #9

Last updated 2012-02-12
© Per Holmbäck

Swedish m/1867 for Remington rolling block rifle

Modell	Tl mm	Bl mm	Sl mm	Sd mm	Factory	Quantity
m/1867	560	485	67	19.1	Husqvarna	Unknown
"	560	485	67	19.1	Carl Gustaf Stad	Unknown
"	560	485	67	19.1	Remington	10,000
m/1867-89	538	490	47	15.5	Carl Gustaf Stad	102.000 (?)

m/1867

In 8'th of May 1867 a rifle with Remington mechanism was approved by the Swedish and Norwegian infantry. The calibre was 12.17 mm (the same as rifle m/1860) since the Swedes had more than 30,000 rifles m/1860 and m/1864 in storage, even though a calibre of about 10 mm was superior !
10,000 rifles and 20,000 mechanisms was bought from Remington & Sons in 1867. Machines for own manufacturing was bought as well.
Two bayonets models was approved with this rifle, a socket and a sword bayonet. The socket bayonet is featured here.

There are 8 different models of m/1867 rifle, 5 new and 3 modifications from breechloaders and chamber loaders:

m/1867
m/1867-68
m/1867-74
m/1867 Remington made
m/1867 with Remington made locking mechanism
m/1860-67 (bayonet m/1860)
m/1860-64-68 (bayonet m/1864)
m/1864-68 (bayonet m/1864-68)

There are basically three different makers of the bayonet, Husqsvarna, Carl Gustaf Stad and Remington. The basic differences (apart from the marking !) is that the Husqvarna bayonet normally is browned, the Carl Gustaf Stad bayonet is usually blued and the Remington bayonet is made with the socket in a separate material. For Carl Gustaf Stad, Eskilstuna Jernmanufactur was one of the subcontractors (anchor mark on the blade).

Remington made bayonet

Here we can see the difference between the Remington made m/1867 (top) and the Husqvarna made bayonet (bottom).
Some observations about the Remington made bayonet.

The arm and blade is made of steel, the socket is made of iron.Note the difference in the picture
The serial number is always (?) in small (1.5 mm) high digits
Never marked with maker
Only seen with control markings 'TN' (Nordström, Carl Timar), 'TLN' (Norlander, Theodor Ludvig) or RN (Nyström, Ludvig Roland).

10,000 were manufactured, 1 (!) was scrapped after delivery. They were delivered September 2, 1868.

Many of these was probably reworked to m/1867-89.

makers

Unusual maker of m/1867 bayonet. Made for Carl Gustaf Stad.
EA Naesman main business was door locks. They changed name in 1881, why this bayonet must have been made in the period 1867-1881. They made 6000 bayonets.

Garl Gustaf Stad factory normally used Eskilstuna Jernmanufactur AB as manufacturer, but in a period from 1867 other makers was used.
Some known makers are:

Maker	Number
Johan Svengren	8.000
E A Näsman	6.000
J Wahlén	3.000
B O Liberg	3.000

m/1867-89

The Swedish 12.17 mm rifle was in a ballistic point of view the worst in Europe after 1870, but it was not until 1889 before a new model was approved.. In 1889 they did not dare to develop a fine calibre magasine rifle, but changed the m/1867 with a 8 mm barrel and a modified Remington mechanism. It was a very well shooting rifle, but soon to be oldfashioned since it lacked magasine. 10200 rifles was converted.
A new bayonet was approved as well. It has the same blade as the m/1867 bayonet, but a new socket. The bayonet is the only one I know which has a locking stud.
All bayonets has the Carl Gustaf Stad ('C') marking.
I believe that many of the bayonets are changed from Remington made m/1867 bayonets.

Closeup of socket, m/1867-89

Other side of socket, m/1867-89

Production steps

I have to publish these pictures of some different bayonet manufacturing steps. These are some samples picked from the production of the m/1867 bayonet. I don't know from where they are.

This is the first 'step'. The socket is roughly forged, the blade is forged from a square shape.

The socket has been further forged, locking ring reinforcement is present. Whole blade is forged.

Now the socket 'hole' is drilled.

The muzzle slot has been opened/milled. The socket and blade is milled.

Now we're talking. Looks like a bayonet !

Variations

There are probably many variations, but I can only present two.

School/Practice bayonet

Tl mm	Bl mm	Sl mm	Sd mm	Factory	Quantity
485	443	44	19.1	unknown	unknown

Some pictures showing the socket and the tip of a school/practice bayonet.
The socket shortened from the original m/1867 socket, resulting is a short, straight slot. (See picture below).
The tip is blunt.
The whole bayonet is browned.
This bayonet is delivered to an armoury, as it is approval marked. It is manufactured at 'Carl Gustaf Stad'. Normally (?) the bayonets from Carl Gustaf Stad are blued, but this is browned after the modification.

Unknown training bayonet

Tl mm	Bl mm	Sl mm	Sd mm	Factory	Quantity
330 (430)	283 (383)	44	19.1	unknown	unknown

The socket is modified in the same way as the above bayonet. The blade is triangular, not cruiciform !
Someone has welded a probably 100 mm extra tip on my bayonet, making it hard to estimate the original length.
These pictures shows the socket and upper part of the blade.
The socket is the same as the school/practice bayonet above. It is a shortened m/1867 socket.
The blade is triangular, not cruiciform as the normal m/1867. I don't know if it is made like this or if it is a reworked m/1867 blade.The dimensions of the blade (except length !) match the m/1867 blade.

The arm is marked with a single '4'.